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Related Content. See all the Action Replay every game all season. The browser you are using is no longer supported on this site. It is highly recommended that you use the latest versions of a supported browser in order to receive an optimal viewing experience. The following browsers are supported: Chrome, Edge v80 and later , Firefox and Safari. Your QB came down to earth. Nice 3rd down conversion ratio. Deal with it. And Harblow can backslap Williams for his helping us win. One More Tynes! Still a great season and one I am very proud.
I am holding my head high and all 9er fans should. Congrats to the Giants…they beat the 9ers at their own game and earned that win. For one, he clearly pays attention to Giants game more than he does Skins games maybe he should switch teams. For him to boldly say that the Giants are the luckiest team in the history of the league is, not even idiotic, but downright dumb.
And I think a lot, Giants and even non-Giants fans, will agree to that. The football, as with other sports that uses a ball, bounces and it is up to the teams to take advantage, if an advantage presents itself, of the bounce that the ball takes.
But when it comes down to it, and I am not discounting the blown calls, the Giants are playing for another Super Bowl while you and your counterparts are sitting at home deciding on who to draft. Come on, seriously! Good job!!! The 9ers attempt to gang tackle so that one or more players can attempt to strip the ball out of the runners arms while his arms are pinned by another tackler.
The play is over once his forward progress is stopped. Just a couple of other things: I hope SF signs Smith to a mega-contract thereby tying up their cap space. Before Vernon Davis starts channeling his inner T. Does he realize we will call him V. Grow up and act like a professional.
But, wow, is this guy awesome on the field. Charmed indeed. Clear cut fumble. The whistle clearly was blown before the strip. You can argue the whistle was quick, but he was being gang tackled by the 49ers and his progress was clearly stopped.
The refs had every right to blow it when they did…. Look at it this way: If the refs had ruled it a fumble, the Giants would have absolutely challenged. With all of these happening and with the rules in the NFL the way they are, this means that they did in fact get the call right. Same with fumbles and anything else that could be a judgement call. Anytime a QB is touched while standing in pocket, he should immediately be marked down.
His forward progress is stopped. I think that was a quick whistle. I would just like see a little more consitant on something like that. The officials got the call right, but the rule is ridiculous and defies logic. Some might say the ref stopped the fight too early. Others will say too late. And another group might say it was a good stoppage. However, I think that adage is incredibly dumb.
I am only trying to get super technical with the rules. Seems to be the cool thing to do these days. That I will attest to.
I think the problem lies with the refs of the NFL not being full time. This play, although I agree was the right call by the rules, was brought up in the off season and the end result was that the officials were going to allow the play to go on a bit longer for such strips and such. Instead have a group of people sitting in a room in say New York and when they see a questionable call they buzz the officials or ref on the field and tel them they need to look at the play.
Not a man alive can tell me there is bias with some of the refs in the NFL. Again, no bias. In the Packers were playing the Vikings, Adrian Peterson was being carried backwards by a mob of Packers.
After being carried back back five yards, the ball was stripped out as Perterson finally managed to start to go to the ground. No whistle. No forward progress. Or never blow the whistle until the player is down on the ground no matter how much he is pushed back?
Or is it that they choose which way to apply the inconsistent rule depending on which team the league office would like to have win the game? Because only those two teams made if further than the Niners. Mad because your team didnt make the playoffs? Lost early in the playoffs? Didnt have the biggest turn around in the NFL this year? As a Niner fan, I say the Niners lost, no excuses. Did Bradshaw fumble? Doesnt matter anymore. To call Niner fans the worst fans of the NFL is ignorant.
Do the Niners have unclassy fans? Harbaugh is playing the East coast fan base like a Stadivarius. This was clearly a fumble.
The league got the match up they wanted…big surprise. Ok there is a lot of talk on here and Absolutly no facts being shared. I rewatched the game from my recording at home. The whistle blew as the ball was a good foot out of his hands.
Clearly fumbled. But due to rules the ball stayed with Giants due to play being dead after whistle. Of course NFL has to back that call.
It was on the largest stage. Now for the comments on the 49ers lucky to even play Against the Giants and not worthy? It was an overtime win. The Giants toughest defense they have played all year. They lost to the 49ers by a great defense earlier this season. The comments on this thread are ridiculous. I signed up just to clarify that it was a great game. A missed call, but 49ers had their chances. I truly believe 49ers won this game in the same fashion they did all year.
Score enought to win, stout defense. Unlucky break went Giants way. I hope they beat Patriots. You said…… I truly believe 49ers won this game in the same fashion they did all year. That was clearly a fumble, there is no doubt at all! Just an obvious bad call. The ball was out of his hands before the whistle blew.
Even the announcers have the East Coast biased, it disgusts me. But not understanding a rule and making a conclusion based on that misunderstanding is sad. The timing of the whistle ultimately did not matter on this play. See if that helps get you on the right path. You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now! This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed. Getty Images. Show some class and stop crying. No game should ever come down to 1 play, if it does, then you did something wrong.
Funny how the tables turn. Till then his string of never having a Harbaugh team ever commit a penalty is intact. The NY Giants that is!!!! Could happen to a better fan base. Forty Whiners. What is it with Harbaugh coached teams and their lame excuses? For any team, if you count on the refs you are wrong…refs are consistently bad. How about the Kyle Williams fumble s Jimbo? Ya gotta problems with those? That was a B. Eff any NY team. I really did not see a fumble in that play, but maybe if I was a 9ers fan, I would say it was.
But I guess we expect something like this from coach Harbaugh. Quite often the brothers look like their diapers need changing, not cool. That was a fumble and and Lee Evans catch was a TD. The current rules blow. The Giants should come back to Washington, and see what happens…loosers! Forty Niners thought wrong. Face it coach Harbaugh, 4 things did you in last night— 1. You stopped running the ball late in the 4th qtr.
Quit your crying and get some class. Harbo is a dick always was and always will be. A fumble. The Harbaughs are whiners. Dad taught them well. Slap a hand Jimbo! The Harbaugh boys have plenty of time to get together and cry. Stay classy. You lose whiners!! See you in another 13 years. Lets see does not do press after game then when he does he crys about a good call.
I hope that the 49ers get a QB so that they can try again in the future. The fix is in. Pats-Giants v2. Yes, it was the officials fault. I guess the rule was applied properly but what a strange rule.
Giants thought Kyle Williams fumbled And the refs agreed. But it was a close enough game — Tom Jackson was saying that was a mighty quick whistle. I thought he fumbled too. Is it any surprise that a Hochuli led crew botched a call like this?
Want to blame someone, Niner fan? Blame your kick returner. Well yeah,except for the fact Bradshaw was going backwards before the ball started to come out.
Any chance Blackmon falls to 29? Learn how to spell 2. And this segment is sponsored by Kleenex. Niner fans may be challenging the Saints and Lions for whiniest fan base. The whistle took away a td for us on the botched punt return. Like wine and cheese? Something for Hairbaugh to use as a crutch all summer. Nice try on Eli. The fish stinks at the head!
The Giants defense stuffed them all day long…. Does every play now end in the middle of the tackle? All the focus is on this play, not on the lack of a QB. Good luck Giants, go get you some Tom Brady. Go Niners! Smith completed 12 passes in an overtime game. You think a fumble is why you lost? Have fun back at Lets focus on some other stats 1 converted 3rd down 1 completion to a WR 2 special teams turnovers I would probably start looking there to find reasons why the 49ers lost.
Like most of the rules in the NFL, it seems to unfairly benefit the offense. Kyle Williams makes a bone head play and muffs a punt. It happens, but not smart. Obviously Kyle fumbling again. Technically a correct call, but called far far tighter then I have ever seen. The Giants were robbed of a first down.
The Giants droped a strip sack fumble! Refs give another victory to the giants. Sucks ass. This game was no different. You do not know the rule. The whistle I irrelevant. His progress was stopped. He was pushed to yards back. This is called all the time. Sounds awesome. Harbaugh sounds smaller and smaller with each subsequent comment. No class. I know they blew the whistle, but his knee was NOT down when that ball popped lose. You see it all the time. Plus as you mention the whistle was blown.
Cry babies………….. You guys are all wrong, the whistle blew well after the ball popped out. I have no idea what game you were all watching especially the first poster. Jim Harbaugh did a great job with the 49ers this season.
That being said, he needs to learn how to win with class and also to lose with class. His alleged shoving of a Fox producer and refusing an interview after the conclusion of the game, along with his comments today criticizing the officiating are inexcusable and need to be addressed by the league. Somebody needs to let this guy know that wether he wins or loses, he must act in a professional manner at all times. The thing that sucks about this rule, like all others, is that the offense always gets the benefit of the doubt.
If they called forward progress as quick as they did yesterday then Eli Manning would have never had a chance to complete the helmet catch…. Forward progress being stopped means no more yards are being gained, and being dragged backwards certainly qualifies. Nothing special about this play. The officials had blow the whistle well before the fumble occurred.
Nothing to do with forward momentum preventing the fumble. The whistle because the official thought it momentum was over ended the play. Once again the refs blew the whistle too early.
They cost the the Lions a possible win against the Saints. They almost cost the Broncos a win vs the Steelers. Just hold the whistle a little while longer to make sure you get the play right.
Your knee does not have to be down to have forward progress stopped. If you wanna complain the ref blew the whistle quickly, then you can make that point. It was a judgment call by the ref. Bradshaw was dragged back over a yard before the ball came out. Maybe your team should have done something on offense in the second half. Stop cryin and get over it. You have a great defense and bright future.
Lets see does that seem fair, I guess if you are for the other team. Jim is just a sore loser. You need to go back and watch his anger on the side lines.
Rules or rules they did the same thing in the Saints game. Just another of a long line of gray area rules and judgement calls in the NFL. Some games they blow the whistle quickly, and in others it seems like an eternity before it is blown, in the exact same situation. Too much variance from crew to crew and game to game. In this case, common sense would tell you that the passing attempt was clearly over in this case, making it impossible for it to be irrefutably ruled and incomplete pass.
But the fact of the matter is that it was the rule of the NFL at the time. People can complain about it after the fact and chew their sour grapes but the fact is it was the rule.
The one thing the refs continually get right is forward progress. Ever see that arm winding when a player is seemingly got out of bounds? The Ref blew the whistle accordingly and as a result of the rule. And to avoid an injury. And you should be looking at your crappy QB and your WR-ing core. Alex Smith coming out party. Play ends when the whistle is blown. No matter if the ball comes out, knee down, steps out etc. Instead ask why only 1 pass was completed to a WR for 3 yards!
Ask why Alex Smith continued to throw the ball in the dirt at receivers feet over their heads and out of bounds. The week before the whiners won on turnovers New Orleans was moving the ball at will on them, only the turnovers prevented a New Orleans blowout win this week they lost on turnovers.
Get over it. You overachieved this year with no QB no Wrs and a great defense. All this whining and complaining is sickening! Ok first off, regardless whether forward progress was determined, the fact remains that the ball was out before ANY whistle was blown.
Not that one call wins or loses a game, Hochuli and Pereira both got it wrong. It was a fumble plain and simple. The whistle is held to see if the runner can make a second effort.
It has nothing to do with allowing the defense to strip the ball as a runner is falling backward with control of the ball. The play was not still going because the runner was unable to advance in an effort to gain more yards after being stopped initially. Had he held onto the ball would Harbaugh think the ball should have been spotted where the runner landed after he was tackled?
I hope not. Harbaugh is still stinging from the loss. I thought he embarrassed himself after the Lions game and pouted after this game instead of doing what every other coach manages to do. They blew that whistle in about a tenth of a second. He just as easily could have bounced out and ran it for a TD, would they have called it back if that happened? That call was 10 times worse. The bottom line is the whistle blew before the Giants RB fumbled.
Absolute rubbish! Bradshaw was stopped at the 21 and pushed back across the 20 and then had the ball ripped from his hands on the 18 and a half yardline.
The call was right because a ref did blow the whistle and there is zero other ways to interpret what happened. Harbaugh is a great coach but he is dead wrong in his comparison. That being said IMO the ref blew the whistle to soon the man should have to be fully tackled. But like I said it is impossible to argue with the fact the ref did blow the whistle. In the end perhaps more worry about kick returners and less about correctly called plays from before.
Also I gotta say it, are the giants a team of destiny? I mean the giants seriously may be the worst team to make a superbowl since the giants team with Kerry Collins. Then the giants excluding maybe the toughest game I have ever seen him play get stomped by the niners d and end up wining because the niner kick returner just gives them ten points including the game winner.
I mean think about the giants have no signature play or anything like that. They are in because a back return man thought nobody would notice if the ball hit his knee the game was viewed by 65 million people, but this guy thought he could fool them all. As a standard habit, Harbaughs whine all the time. On the sidelines, to the media, everywhere and always. Every football game played is going to contain questionable calls and non-calls.
The way to overcome those unfortunate human mistakes is to outplay your opponent. The 49ers defense played very good, offense not so much. Great season, good luck next year. Yes, technically his forward progress had been stopped, they blew the whistle, so the play is dead.
Routinely in the league the refs let it go for a few seconds as guys pile on before they blow the whistle. Just another example of the refs not being consistent.
Geeze, the runner got hit at the and was pushed back to the 19 when the ball came out. He was falling and being pulled backward when the ball came out. But you do have to wonder why the whistle blew so quickly. Cmon lets be real here.. Good call. Tuck rule, now that was baloney. Ok, lets just say this was a blown call which it wasnt. OL getting away with dirty plays, Rocky Bernards bloody mouth and we get flagged!!! Totally agee! I mean, the NFL is out to get you Bay area teams!
Vast conspiracy and all. Now excuse me while I get back to investigating the NBA, the frozen envelope and Patrick Ewing while wearing my tin foil hat. That was an amazing game. The worst team in the AFC playoff team is representing. Eli should and better win this game. Fumble, Example. See 10 on San Fran special teams. I really believe Harbaugh is trying to deflect some of the intense emotions of 49er fans away from Kyle Williams and on to another target and could not care less about what people think of him.
All you do is come and dump on this board. Have to disagree about you saying the tuck rule is used sparingly I saw it personally called in 6 different games this year. Williams, the refs, the fumble… Why does no one talk about there QB only completing 12 passes yeah guess that had nothing to do with it. Giants won because they made the plays to win the game. The part of this post that cracks me up is giants fan reaction to niners fan reaction bitching about officiating. Giants fans all year have been crying about the officiating everytime they lost.
Yes everytime. I remember reading the post about them bitching and crying when they lost to green bay during the regular season.. Moral to the story Giants you won fair and square but your as bad as any fans when it comes to comlaining about officiating. I thought the ball was coming out before the whistles blew and I watched it several times. If you actually watch the whole play again the LJ spots the forward progress a good 2 seconds before the ball came out.
Gawd man, no replay shows him going forward, his legs were caught. He was dragged backwards and falling. Wow…I thought Jet fans were cry babies. You guys are the worst. Tell ya what, when you guys admit to the blown call in then we will talk. Man, what a bunch of whiny d-bags. Just like your coach. Harbaugh has a point. I was watching that game and the ref blew the whistle as soon as the ball started coming loose. He wouldnt have blown the whistle had the ball not come loose and had Bradshaw consenquently broken free of the tackle and advanced the ball.
Whistle was early, especially in real time on the field. Can Harbaugh and Schwartz go to the Pro Bowl to bareknuckle box each other? Will we ever hear the end of this? This is the biggest bunch of bull if I ever heard any. That being said, the game is over and the results are logged.
Cant change the game, but the NFL can be more accurate and even in the way they officiate games. I think people are more tired of that than anything else. I was rooting for the 9ers, but the call was the right one.
Harbaugh sounds more and more like a cry-baby who is a very sore loser. Maybe he should get a QB who can actually complete a pass instead of blaming the refs. Only difference is we all know what forward progress is and nobody still has any idea what the tuck rule is. I listened to this press conference on my way home from work. He was asked specifically about this situation. Theres more than play in a game, this would be a non issue if Smith converted a first down or two, instead of drawing blanks the whole game…….
What do you same 49er homers think about the review of the sideline run by Vernon Davis that was clearly showing his foot was out of bounds? Check the video. He then scrambled to jam the toothpaste back in the tube by pointing in the direction of the Giants, this after the 49ers had already recovered the non-fumble. Again, check the video.
His forward progress had stopped. It was a quick whistle, but frankly, I think it was blown at the right time. Using last year as an example: The Ravens stopped Fred Jackson, pushed him back 4 yards, Lewis stripped the ball from Jackson and the Ravens recovered which allowed them to win. This once wonderful game has all but been ruined by the micro managing referees. The game is one big question mark since the league has to check and re-check every single play that occurs on the field.
Even scoring plays have to be re-verified. What a shame. As for Harbaugh he is a bad-loser and seems to be a jerk from afar. Was really turned off when at the end of the game he couldnt even shake Coughlins hand , just barely, and had no class in boycotting the post game Fox TV interview.
Glad the classy Giants won. Im sure Jim and Niner fans will be quiet just because a guy by the screen name gangsterg told them to. You mad because you guys got tebowed this year? Tuck rule was what, ten years ago and most of you fans still cry about it.
Second, I can point out at least half a dozen times in that game where a player was being stood up and they let it run for another seconds before blowing the whistle. They blew that whistle under 1 second after the hit. It was a poor call, the 49ers now need to deal with. It will be more fun since you have the opportunity to debate with someone with the same amount of knowledge.
Harbaugh is a dope. As someone who was rooting for the Giants, that was ridiculously quick whistle. I can honestly say I have not seen a play blown dead that fast all season. There is no Barry Sanders highlight film without the stopping of forward progress. Referees apply the rules inconsistently and fall back on their constituents Pereira to make themselves feel like they are always right. What benefits the corporation is most important, not the legitimacy of the product.
Fumbles have been rules when guys were stopped a lot more than Bradshaw on that play. People have to realize you need luck to make it to the super bowl. Giants have had wide right, tyree catch and now fumbleruski Williams. The Bradshaw fumble is also indicative of their luck. Most forward progress calls are blown dead a little later than yesterday. Who would be the unluckiest. That ot fumble was a complete joke, barely touched.
Pats are equally lucky. Tuck rule, cheating against Rama and Vinatieri field goals are why they are considered a dynasty. They got to play Vince young and Tebowis 2xs this year. Not to mention no Peyton Manning and the cowboys fluke collapse. If Ravens were home, no doubt they wax the pats. Better to be lucky than good I suppose.
But these 2 teams are ridiculously fortunate. Rookie coach. Bad calls are made routinely in the NFL. Sorry niner fans. Its not you its the refs. Quit playing victim. I dont think there is any question whether the call was correct by the rule book!
It happens in every game. The issue is consistency not whether the call was right or not. Right call but def. I agree that the call yesterday was technically correct, but all these years later I still think the tuck rule call was an over interpretation of the rule. It was the hit by Woodson. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.
This, along with the Calvin Johnson rule are two of the worst rules on the books. The one where the ref blew the whistle and ended the play even though the Giants had recovered the punt? Giants will take the 7 on the board…49ers can have the ball at the 25 yard line, and hope to come away with something.
Bitch all you want about them being whiners.. The last playoff game between NY and SF ended on a much larger screwjob of a call. With the way the Giants defense was playing that may have amounted to a TD but more likely a FG or turnover.
What a sore loser. You are really comparing this to the tuck rule? They are not even in the same hemisphere of similarity. Forward progress is ruled all the time on plays. Why are the refs so sacrosanct? Was anybody else sickened by Tynes post kick celebration. My gawd, you are supposed to make that kick.
Quit acting like you hit from 63 yards out. His aim for defenders got better in the Superbowl that year. Especially since they made that B. Gannon had confronted a ref that looked as stunned as anyone else on the field. To their credit they drove and made the FG, the rest is history. Dont worry, the Niners will be back to smash opponents in the mouth as they have all year — he may cry but their football style is down your throat, old school.
It was a bitter loss after a great upset of New Orleans. Buck has been awful for years — get Gus Johnson and add Mike Mayock, already. Was it not a fumble because forward progress had been stopped, or was it not a fumble because the whistle had blown? He dropped the ball before he hit the ground while flying backwards. Congrats to both the Giants and the 49ers on a great game, but as a fan of neither team and truely from an unbiased perspective, the refs blew this call!
I replayed this play times on DVR and the ball had been ripped out seconds prior to the whistle being blown. Its plays like this that would make me go irate if I was a coach! Its time for the NFL to be held accountable for mistakes they make……. If the 49ers had converted on third down a few more times or not fumbled on returns it would not be an issue. What happened to the Saints v. They had me until they said the tuck rule was applied correctly.
By the way, has there ever been a more worthless rule? I agree Deadskins — if Bradshaw ran for a TD, it would have never been called back. The whistle was blown way too fast — it should have been considered a fumble. I was shocked that the refs blew the whistle that quick. They have dropped the ball on many calls this post-season, as well as at the end of the year. The Harbaughs are both self-entitled jerkoffs.
Wow I just lost a lost a respect after reading this headline. Been watching football for 27 years. His progress was stopped and 9ers where pulling him backwards, not to mention that the whistle blew. Move On Harbaugh….. Jim Harbaugh is developing a quick reputation as a saw loser AND an obnoxious winner. Most of the fans are jumping back on the band wagon now.
That was fumble on the yard line with to go in a tied game. You can be sure the east coasters would be screaming bloody-murder today if it had happened the other way around. Phil Simms said today that it was a quick whistle. You all know it.
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